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# And Justice for Some feat. Cam Zorrozua & Virla Spencer
- URL: https://www.rangemedia.co/podcasts/and-justice-for-some-feat-cam-zorrozua/
- Published: 2021-02-26T23:00:13.000Z
- Updated: 2021-02-26T23:00:13.000Z
- Description: This week on the pod we talk to Virla Spencer and Camerina Zorrozua of The Way to Justice, a newish non-profit that helps people get their lives back after run ins with the criminal legal system.
- Author: RANGE
- Tags: Criminal Legal, Podcast, #wp, #wp-post, #Import 2026-02-19 03:03

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This week on the pod we talk to Virla Spencer and Camerina Zorrozua of The Way to Justice, a newish non-profit that helps people get their lives back after run ins with the criminal legal system.

Cam works primarily in post-conviction relief — helping people who have been locked up — while Virla runs the re-licensing program, helping poor folks who have lost their drivers license due to an inability to pay fines or other reasons to create a path back to just having the basic mobility most of us take for granted.

These two are larger than life personalities separately. Together they’re pretty close to a force of nature.

> **If you like what you hear, you can support their work at [www.thewaytojustice.com](http://www.thewaytojustice.com/?ref=rangemedia.co)**

### Further Study

- HOW IT STARTED: [Blueprint for Reform](https://www.spokanecounty.org/DocumentCenter/View/1685/CJC-Blueprint-for-Reform-PDF?bidId=&ref=rangemedia.co) | Creating an Efficient and Effective Regional Criminal Justice System
- HOW IT’S GOING: [Blueprint Status Report](https://www.spokanecounty.org/DocumentCenter/View/35530/Blueprint-for-Reform-Status-Update-October-2020?ref=rangemedia.co) (not great tbh)
- [Spokane County incarceration data](https://www.spokanecounty.org/4248/Criminal-Justice-Data?ref=rangemedia.co) \- updated frequently
- [Senate bill](https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?billnumber=5226&year=2021&initiative=False&ref=rangemedia.co) that would end suspension of licenses for failure to pay fines.