Hey y'all. Long time, no pod.
And I was kinda beating myself up about it, too. The conversation I had in July with Shawn Vestal was just so dang timely, you know? Talking about how local leaders attempting to take responsibility for white supremacy in our culture and society get slapped back by powerful people who are pretty comfortable with white supremacy, actually.
Turns out there’s always some fresh white supremacy to go around, what with the announcement of speakers at the Republican National Convention.
So anyway, Here's part one of an honest chat with Vestal about how white people can have tough conversations with themselves and others about the work we all need to do in this moment.
Pretty evergreen content TBH. Enjoy